it's not you, but us. it's you and not us threatening it. >> my producers were remarking the same thing. the visual you're on the ground there. this crowd looks exactly at least from our vantage point what we saw during the arab spring. >> reporter: you're absolutely right. the old revolution of the arab spring. it was before they got involved. you see people singing songs, mixing that with chants of leave, leave, leave. remember that one? people want to bring the regime down. a veteran of the upridsing said she she not seen a mix like this. many, many women are veiled because there are islamists here, morsi's own people protesting against his decrees. back to you. >> all right, jim, thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. still aahead the challenge of getting to the number 218. if a fiscal cliff deal is to be done by the end of the year. why nbc's first read team says it's more of a struggle to get the new class of house republicans to sign on to higher tax raits for the wealthy. we'll break down that